and it's not going to melt your ice, it's for traction. and other people who said maybe fertilizer, but we did not try that because we know about the environmental effects of fertilizer and what can happen when it gets in our waterways, so we did not try that. if you have any of these other household items, in a pinch, this stuff might work. i mean, you don't want to use it all the time. you don't want to use it on a long stretch of driveway, but if you have some small areas that need a quick, easy fix, this might do it. >> i thought the bleach would have worked for you, but a little bit of salt. >> yeah. >> and soy sauce as well. >> yes. >> topper. >> well, if you use soy sauce, you know it's going to attract bugs and that's going to atrack russ. >> in a pinch. okay. fine. all right, arctic blast overnight, record lows fell. downtown safe, that rain.